Monday, August 29, 2016

The spice of life

As I expected, a lot of comments rolled up on my previous post about GSN and Game Show Forum. By now I've gotten a pretty good feel for which posts are going to provoke the most reactions.

One of the comments was the old chestnut about how GSN needs more "variety" in the schedule. As I replied in a comment of my own, the v-word is just code for "more old stuff." (Used to see this complaint all the time on GSN's old Internet board.)

And as I also pointed out, a lot of GSN's schedule has gathered a lot of dust, anyway. Today, for instance, the first three hours are more than thirty years old, the next two hours are more than ten years old, and three hours in the afternoon are more than nine years old. This has to be one of the older schedules for any cabler outside the dedicated oldies networks. (I also mentioned that Game Show Forum likes the dust a foot thick, so the schedule probably looks fifteen minutes old to them.)

As for variety, today GSN runs twelve different shows: Match Game, Card Sharks, Press Your Luck, Pyramid, Lingo, Family Feud, Chain Reaction, Catch 21, Deal or No Deal, Winsanity, Newlywed Game and Baggage.

But as the infomercials say, wait, there's more. The schedule also has two versions of Card Sharks, two versions of Pyramid and three versions of Feud.

It's certainly more variety than the new Buzzr weekday schedule has on tap. If out of all these GSN offerings covering nearly forty years of game shows, you can't find something to like...well, maybe you should try soap operas or sitcoms instead.

UPDATE: Game Show Forum has finally started rolling out their top 50 list. Looks like it will take a while to get through all of them. The bottom five 46-50 are Twenty One, He Said She Said/Tattletales, Win Lose or Draw, College Bowl and Weakest Link. I would have left the first three off my list entirely. One was rigged and the other two just weren't good enough. (Win Lose or Draw did not make GSF's 2006 top 50 list, by the way.) But all three have plenty of age on them, so it's no surprise to see them on GSF's 2016 list.

The average age of these selections is a whopping 42 years, dating from the year of the first regular U.S. TV run. My guess is that the average age of the entire list will end up close to this number. By and large I expect a moldering list from deep in the game show crypt. This is the oldies board to end 'em all, you know. Only four dozen people voted in the poll, compared to 80 in 2006. Which shows that Game Show Forum itself is starting to wither on the vine, as one brave poster points out on the thread.

A funny note: at GSF almost all the objections to the bottom five selections center on Weakest Link. Hey, the show is only 15 years old. How dare such "modern" stuff sneak onto our list!

28 comments:

  1. I believe you were referring to my commentfrom yesterday. It would be nice to see more shows from earlier genetstions or from recent years , but what I meant is that GSN would be more enjoyable if there weren't marathons of Harvey Family Feud every day.I know there are at a dozen other shows airing, but there ia too much Harvey FF

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    1. Harvey Feud happens to be the highest-rated show on GSN. People want to watch it, so that's why it's on. Anyway, 68% of the schedule today is not Harvey Feud. You can't find something to watch in all those other hours of shows?

      And what you mean by "variety" is exactly "more old stuff." As you more or less admit. Why don't you complain about Buzzr? They're running six hours of Dawson Feud today...the same amount of time that GSN gives to Harvey Feud today.

      But of course, Dawson Feud is a lot older, so that automatically makes it better for you.

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  2. Dawson Feud is also a lot "cleaner" and most every answer doesn't involve sex. Some people call Dawson a perv or something along those lines, the ladies loved Dawson though the reality was. And he loved them, until he got married of course then he just about stopped kissing the ladies. But it was his schtick.

    I've pretty much given up on GSN now. They'll air what they air, I'll watch other programs. I don't watch many game shows anymore. I'll put on Buzzr occasionally but that's about it.

    Yes, I prefer older decent game shows but I will try out some new game shows depending on what they are.

    And when someone says variety, it doesn't necessarily mean oldies. It could be shows like Regis Millionaire, Weakest Link, Early GSN originals, etc. Just saying.

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    1. Get real. "Variety" in complaints about GSN is code for "more old stuff," and you know that as well as I do.

      Gotta smile when you say that Regis Millionaire and Weakest Link aren't really "oldies." By normal TV standards these 15-20 year old show are prehistoric. But by your standards (the older-is-better crowd) I guess they really aren't so old, after all. As I said, you guys like the dust a foot thick.

      And if you can't find anything on GSN's schedule to watch, I guess you're really not much of a game show fan. So why are you moderating Game Show Paradise?

      And as you also know, the Victorian-maiden whines about Harvey Feud cut no ice with me. The show has no violence and no sex, just a few off-color jokes. Harvey doesn't even lip-lock every woman in sight, as Dawson did. If you can't stand some slightly risqué humor, find a time machine and head back to 1860s London.

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    2. "And when someone says variety, it doesn't necessarily mean oldies." Bingo. Of course, ANY show that's not Harvey Feud airing in one of those 17 timeslots every day would be more variety -- whether it was a day old, 10-15 years old, or 40 years old. Heck, if they aired last season's eps. of Wheel or Jeopardy! or TPiR or LMaD in some of those slots (hypothetically, of course), that would cut down on the lack of variety -- and obviously they wouldn't be "old stuff".

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    3. There are eleven other shows airing on GSN today (August 30) besides Family Feud, and two other versions of Feud airing besides Harvey's. Have you even glanced at the GSN schedule lately?

      Sorry, the "variety" complaint has always been code for "more old stuff." All this whining about Harvey Feud doesn't change that fact. There are plenty of hours of other shows on GSN besides your hated Steve Harvey.

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  3. Great to see you really know me.

    What I meant was, yes Millionaire and Weakest Link are both about 20 years old. They are oldies, but not the oldies from the 70s and 80s. It was just an example.

    I can get risque humor, but it's stupid and unnecessary on a game show. Remember when you could watch game shows with the family? Even the old Match Game you could. They had words like boobs, but that's not risque. Maybe by your definition.

    Questioning how much of a game show fan I am when you don't even know me. I'm not as big of a fan as I used to be, but I keep up with the game shows. I moderate game show paradise because I want to and I do want to stay in the game show world.

    I don't have to watch GSN if I don't want to. I watch a few but mostly recorded shows. Idiotest mostly. You don't have to watch GSN for game shows if you don't want to. There are other ways such as YouTube if I wanted to. Or syndicated game shows like Jeopardy which I watch occasionally.

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    1. I'm not a prude, like you probably think.

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    2. I'm not getting into anther long spat. You're an older-is-better guy who hates GSN for running shows with less than decades of dust of them. Enough said.

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    3. I'm not looking to get in a big long spat. I apologize about last time.

      But you're assuming again that I "hate" GSN for whatever. I won't even ask why you assume things about me when you don't even know me.

      I'm a "decent is better guy" you're a "newer is better guy". No?

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    4. I have to defend myself when I feel I'm being misrepresented.

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  4. The only question is why can't GSN put up episodes of Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy onto their schedule? Maybe they can air episodes from last season.

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    1. They probably just don't care, given how it's (seemingly) been ages since either was on there.

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    2. Sony guards recent eps of Wheel and Jeopardy like the crown jewels. I'm sure GSN would love to get those eps, but it doesn't seem possible now.

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    3. Wait...I thought GSN is part of Sony?

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    4. Sony owns about half of GSN and has operating control. But that still doesn't mean they're going to let a mid-sized cable network have recent eps of the crown jewels.

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  5. Admittedly, I have to concede that I find GSN's schedule more enjoyable (and has more variety) than Buzzr's now. I like Match Game and Dawson Feud, but not to the degrees that Buzzr shows them now. It'll get old (figuratively, of course) really quick. There's enough stuff on GSN that I've found myself watching it more recently.

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  6. I disagree that the selections on the Game Show Forum list should be considered a "moldering list from deep in the game show crypt." (That is, the overall list, not specifically the first 5 shows to be revealed.)

    Look at what ABC put into prime time this summer: Family Feud (first aired 1976), Pyramid (1973), Match Game (1962), and To Tell the Truth (1956). The average age of that group is 49. All of those shows are likely to place well in the Game Show Forum poll (they were all in the top 10 in the 2006 poll).

    Yet those formats are considered fresh enough to have their newly produced episodes as prime time network fare. I doubt that ABC executives think that their current game shows are moldering shows from the crypt.

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    1. Please. Those shows will get most definitely not get onto Game Show Forum's list because of the ABC versions. In particular, GSF hates Steve Harvey and all his versions of Feud. They've also been pretty hard on ABC's Match Game and To Tell the Truth.

      I'll admit that they generally liked ABC's 100K Pyramid, but only because the show was such a faithful clone of the old Dick Clark versions. Anyway, all these shows will get onto GSF's list because of the decades-old versions, not because of ABC's current shows.

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    2. Doesn't matter if GSF hates Steve, just like any other opinion they have. They don't matter.

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  7. At the end of the day, Game Shows today are better than they have ever been. GSF doesn't matter, and nobody cares what they think. That's a good thing, trust me. Oh and Robert "don't assume things about me because you don't know me," Seriously, I don't think people would WANT to know you. Get a life, and get off the internet!

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    2. Telling me to get a life and get off the internet. That's funny coming from you. You're on the internet posting that comment, why don't you get a life and get off it? LOL

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    3. Wow, you really don't get it, do you?

      I matter.........you don't.

      I have a life, and you don't. Seriously, nothing you say, or do will ever matter because you don't matter whatsoever. You are a joke, a pathetic invalid entity, and you don't deserve to live.
      You cannot fathom how worthless you are, you are the worst, most pathetic thing ever.


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    4. Attacking people that way proves you have a life?

      Either way, Thank you.

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  8. Also, the real game show experts don't resided on fanboish internet blogs. Real experts actually work in the industry, and they actually know how things work. Buzzerblog, and this site fall into that. Anyone who denounces this, is a pathetic piece of crap who doesn't deserve to be on the Earth.

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    1. Never mind those other comments. You're one of these people who thinks their opinions are more superior to others, even so you'll stoop so low as to attack people.

      If you don't like the internet and people on it, you shouldn't be on the internet.

      I'm done. There's no point in continuing a spat with you.

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