Thursday, February 11, 2016

Nobody's perfect

The latest game show goof video comes from Family Feud.

Poor contestant Sheila Patterson thought that "Mommy" (accent on the second syllable) was a different answer from the previously given "Mommy" (accent, as usual, on the first syllable). This has set off much hilarity on the Interwebs and even made the national news. Sheila explained to ABC: "My nerves just got the best of me trying to come up with something else." Apparently.

The full ep won't air until February 23, and it should get some pretty decent ratings. Which, of course, is why Feud released the video now. It's not a bad way to generate some buzz, but I still feel a little squeamish about tossing some helpless civvie to the media wolves. Still, Sheila doesn't look too upset with her newfound fame. She got on TV, after all.

In a distantly related item, Jeopardy contestant Talia Levin has complained about crude comments on her Facebook page after her appearance on the quizzer. Talia, recently one of the usual Interweb geniuses told me to "f--k off" [he spelled out the word] over, of all things, taxpayer money going to NPR. Seriously. My advice is just to laugh off such Internet nonsense and move on.

UPDATE: A long string of comments has grown about my recommendation of humor and a "laugh it off" approach toward Internet trolls. I realize that reasonable people can disagree here, but it seems to me that anger and righteous indignation are exactly the wrong approach to use with the pathetic species Trollus Internetus. Such responses only give the trolls exactly what they want.

Still, others like a stronger approach than humor and ridicule. Fine, but it's not my style. Of course, in cases of actual physical threats or other situations involving personal peril, the police are there to help. Such cases have become all too common on the Internet.

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  1. Cory Anotado responded with a comment that I had to delete because he used obscenity (see the policy clearly described in "Legalities and Technicalities" at the bottom of the blog). This seems to be a permanent problem with Anotado. He can't write three sentences without recourse to the f-word. I will reprint his comment below without the obscenities and respond to it...

    Tiombi Prince didn't write that article. Talia Lavin did. And this isn't just "crude comments on her Facebook page" like you so condescendingly wrote. They are complaining about the unceasing, everlasting barrage of sexually explicit comments, emails, tweets and other pieces of harassment that women who just want to play Jeopardy! have to deal with every single time they appear on TV.

    Comparing the hundreds and thousands of comments that women get, downplaying their existence to nothing more than a f--ktoy, to me telling you to f--k off, is insulting to women everywhere and is not just deplorable, but disappointing as someone who claims to love the same things I do.

    You should be ashamed of yourself for so easily dismissing the claims of women who are constantly getting harassed for nothing more than doing what thousands of men do with impunity.


    I have corrected the identification of the author to Talia Levin. Otherwise, Anotado's comments have no value. As usual, he see the faults in other people's Internet remarks, without noticing the constant stream of crude language and personal insults he pours forth in his own Twitter feed. Doctor, heal thyself.

    Anotado has a reputation on the Internet and it's not a good one. He got kicked off Wikipedia - which is pretty hard to do - and he has been involved in countless flame wars with many other people. Again, the best policy is to brush off his obscenity-splattered rants and instead discuss matters with adults who do not have to result to the crudest language imaginable.

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    1. To correct the final sentence: "result" should read "resort."

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  2. So, you do a great job lobbing ad hominem attacks on me and not responding to anything I'm saying. How is me telling you to "f*ck off" in any way comparable to the unceasing sexual harassment of Talia, Liz and hundreds of other women on the Internet? Why is it OK for you to tell Talia, basically, "Quiet down, sweetheart"? Why is her argument invalid in your eyes?

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    1. My comment to Talia Levin was to laugh off Internet nonsense and move on...just as I laugh off your silly obscene rants. That's the exact opposite of "Quiet down, sweetheart." The best response to crude and obscene remarks is to laugh at their pathetic authors.

      Alex Davis recently wrote me an e-mail apologizing for your personal and profanity-laced insults toward me (and many others). I responded with a figurative wave of the hand. I expect little more from you, after all.

      While I have sometimes disagreed with Alex (and strongly), he has always responded in civil language (though with vigor). You could learn a lot from your BuzzerBlog co-author.

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    2. You are actively avoiding my questions. Talia Levin's article boils down to "Women are getting sexually harassed on the internet when they appear on Jeopardy!. It is demeaning, it is demoralizing, it is wrong, on a societal level. Men are not getting the same level of harassment. This is not OK." Your response to that is, "Oh, just ignore it."

      Hundreds of women who have received this level of national publicity have received the same advice and tried to heed it to no avail. Former New York Times Food Editor Amanda Hess writes, "But no matter how hard we attempt to ignore it, this type of gendered harassment—and the sheer volume of it—has severe implications for women’s status on the Internet. Threats of rape, death, and stalking can overpower our emotional bandwidth, take up our time, and cost us money through legal fees, online protection services, and missed wages. I’ve spent countless hours over the past four years logging the online activity of one particularly committed cyberstalker, just in case."

      So, why are you actively dismissing the very real scourge of females being harassed on the internet? Why are you doing nothing to stop women from being harassed by saying "This is wrong."?

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    3. I'm happy to see that you have written a comment in civil language, for once. As I've said elsewhere in the thread, I think laughter and ridicule are the best weapons against obscene personal insults. I've used those weapons against your obscene personal insults toward me, for instance.

      In cases of actual physical threats or other dangerous situations involving personal peril, law enforcement assistance is available. I've never had to go to the police myself - thank God - but such situations have become sadly commonplace.

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  3. Yeah, this is WAYYY more than crude language. The women that appear on game shows have been objectified, harrassed (one blogger repeatedly called someone who posted their number on a show), and are treated like objects. Men that appear on this shows don't get it- and if they do, it's not NEARLY as bad as the women. I see it in the community, on youtube and facebook, and it sickens me that these mouth breathing fanbois represent the fandom.

    Make more sense for you?

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    1. Then laugh at them. Reacting with righteous indignation gives these fools exactly what they want. I enjoy laughing at Anotado, for instance.

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    2. Casey...these women are being laughed at for APPEARING on a game show and then being judged by their body type...how are you not getting this?

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    3. I as far as I remember never once commented on a Jeopardy! contestant's body, for all the comments I made up until early-mid September that used to piss people off(save for one relapse three weeks ago)

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  4. Casey, you seem to have completely missed the point of Cory's comment, which was well articulated *without* the F word, in that he only used it as an example of what other people say.

    It's apparent that you don't care about what he said, only that he disagreed with you, prompting you to claim a "technicality" in order to delete it. I guess having a comment on your site that makes sense would undermine your inability to do so.

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    1. The policy on language in the comments has long stood on this blog for all to see. I reprinted Anotado's entire comment and only spaced out two obscenities. Otherwise, his remarks were given in full, word for word. They were hardly "deleted."

      We'll just have to agree to disagree on how to respond to Internet trolls like Anotado or the Jeopardy fools. I think humor and a "laugh it off" attitude is the best approach. Anger seems counter-productive to me, because it gives the trolls exactly what they want. If that doesn't make sense to you or Benjamin Williams, I'm sorry. But to each our own approach.

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    2. Yes, you can take your own approach. But don't be surprised when people start saying "you're part of the problem" and lumping you in with ZH and his cabal.

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    3. Oh, I'll take that risk. If I got all hot and bothered every time Anotado used the f-word about me or somebody else, I'd be permanently hot and bothered. In other words, I'd be...Anotado.

      It is something of a bind here. I'll admit, I don't like being told "f--k off" over some harmless comment about NPR taxpayer money. And this isn't the first obscene tweet Anotado has launched at me. Just as I'm sure Talia didn't like being hearing the asinine remarks from the Jeopardy trolls.

      But getting on your high horse and calling down the wrath of the gods on such silly people does seem counter-productive to me. You really are giving them exactly what they want.

      Just laugh at them. Drives 'em nuts...if they aren't already there.

      Again, the disclaimer: if somebody is threatening actual violence or other personal peril, the police are there to help. And yes, such situations have become all too common on the Internet.

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  5. Your "approach" leaves the harassers untouched, unscolded and unpunished, while putting the emotional, mental and psychological burden on the woman getting harassed. Your repeated doubling down on this approach being effective shows your lack of empathy toward women who are sexually harassed day in and day out. You clearly don't care about the thousands of women who are harassed online by men, enabled in part by your cowardice.

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    1. Your "approach" leaves the harassers untouched, unscolded and unpunished

      Oh, I don't think so at all. You're one of my harassers on the Internet - in repetitive and obscene language - and in this thread I have left you very touched, scolded and punished. (Okay, that's only my opinion and I am biased in this regard.) But I've done it with humor and ridicule. I know that getting laughed at drives you batty.

      I think Talia should try the same weapons with her harassers that I have used with my harasser (otherwise known as you). Seems to work pretty well. I know I've gotten under your skin, and I enjoy that a lot.

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    2. You're comparing one man's ire with the constant barrage of sexual harassment these women get from hundreds of anonymous men.

      And you don't get under my skin. Your attitude is harmful to our genre and I'm defending people who don't deserve having your harmful views permeate in the ether, influencing people who may feel like it's ok to harass women, like one of your favorite commenters, Zach Horan.

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    3. You've got "ire"? I just thought you had a linguistic tick that causes you to type "f--k" or a version thereof every other sentence. Oh well, I think I told Alex that you might grow up one of these days. Maybe I'm too optimistic.

      Horan isn't a favorite or non-favorite. He posts here once in a while. So do you. Hard to believe, but you're not one of my favorites, either.

      Still think the best way for anybody, male or female, to deal with any Internet harasser, male or female, is humor and ridicule. It's worked pretty well for me with you.

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    4. Cory Anotado has more fans that you or I will ever have, Casey. My PG-rated comments toward women, which I've wished for five months now I never started, will have people still telling me to screw off in 2030, whether I make another PG-rated comment toward women or not again, even when I just make a general game show comment

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  6. I will declare Daniel's Showcase on today's Price is Right a technical win BECAUSE HE was closer to the ARP than Kelly.

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  7. i've no idea what the kerfuffle is here. all i know is that the "feud" clip was wonderful & mr. harvey handled it fabulously.

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